The Bnetwork Guestbook Archives: December 1996


We are VERY sorry, but due to a file transfer error on the internet, many of the December posts have been lost. I have reconstructed most of this file from buffers, but some posts may have been lost for good. If we are able to recover any of these, they will be added to the below. Redundancy has been added to help preclude this problem from happening in the future.


I read Ishmael about a year ago and just read B yesterday, so maybe I haven't delved far enough into the "what can we do" aspect of the changes many of us would like to see. But, isn't adopting a vegetarian lifestyle one giant leap we could each make to p ut an end to totalitarian agriculture (which is feeding more animals to be consumed than it is humans, directly...and in a very inefficient manner to say the least!) Having been vegetarian for 6 years and vegan for the last six months, I can attest to the fact that it is truly a vehicle to pique the curiousity of the masses...what we eat is so central to who we are...and everyone loves to talk about it...can we start there? Is Daniel Quinn an advocate of vegetarianism? For the curious, the best read is "D iet for a New America" by John Robbins.
Debra Palka
Buffalo, NY USA - Thursday, January 02, 1997 at 14:14:04 (PST)
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I am very heartened by how many "edges of the mosaic" DQ was able to fill in with "The Story of B" that were not filled in "Ishmael". The message is clearly the same, but to my mind far better expressed; Mr. Quinn has clearly spent much time filling in ch inks and reflecting both on the message and its application. I am also quite encouraged to find that his advice to those of us seeking a more sane way to live resonates with other voices to which I am tuned; those extolling voluntary simplicity, those ext olling a retreat from consumerism, those crying out for stronger community, less disparity between rich and poor, greater social justice, greater "true cost" accounting for our activities and products, etc. I for one will stand up and talk to a _lot_ of p eople about both "Ishmael" and "The Story of B". My warmest thanks and regards to Mr. Quinn for both of these works, as well as for continuing to be an activist himself through his talks and through forums such as this one. There's a lot of work to be don e...let's get on with it! Jef
Jeffrey P. Murray
Atlanta, GA USA - Thursday, January 02, 1997 at 08:10:19 (PST)
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somehow this philosophy is very intuitive within all of us. relationships between fellow man, animals, the earth, etc. can no longer be based on exploitation. community and (though it sounds naive) love are two components of leaver society that can really start to transform us. they are fundamental and are the fount from which institution and action will acquire specific change. western religion, specifically the teachings of jesus christ, are not antithetical to this path. god did not give adam the creat ion to conquer but as a sign of god to live in community with, working through a mutual respect. christianity of today's church is so far removed from its fundamental teaching because of church doctrine that it is easily attacked as taker oriented. readin g ishmael opened my eyes to a sadistically materialistic mother culture that exploits and kills all that is potentially good in humans. luxury is sought at the expense of millions of poverty stricken people. profit is fought for at the expense of resource s and natural beauty. cultural icons and our president preach growth, development, consumerism, and the hope of a strong economy. what they are saying is i am going to use you, the earth, all its living creatures for my personal gain...screw community, sc rew nature, screw my fellow human
jonathan clapper
seattle, wa USA - Wednesday, January 01, 1997 at 21:50:02 (PST)
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Oh I am so ignorant! Why should others be?
Matt Clement
brunswick, me USA - Wednesday, January 01, 1997 at 13:56:22 (PST)
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i need somethin to do. i agree our present system does not work . i want to feel i've contributed to to a better life for my child.
l hyder
orlando, fl USA - Wednesday, January 01, 1997 at 12:25:22 (PST)
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We loved both Ishmael and The Story of B and are inspired to learn more. This web page has given us a place to start. We look forward to discussing the concepts presented by Daniel Quinn with others.
Gus and Aileen Murphy-Moulton
Seattle, WWWWWashington USA - Tuesday, December 31, 1996 at 09:22:51 (PST)
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"We must no longer wait for tomorrow; it has to be invented." Gaston Berger
Ted Markow
Brunswick, ME USA - Tuesday, December 31, 1996 at 09:08:05 (PST)
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I am interested in including The Story of B in a new course that several faculty members are developing at Jackson State University, in Jackson, MS. The course would be at the undergraduate level and focus on global education and be taught by a number of faculty from several departments on the campus. I would be interested in knowing if there are others out there with a somewhat similar idea. I am looking forward to allowing students across the campus, the opportunity to read Daniel Quinn's worldview and approach to life. Hopefully no one gets fired or shot in the temple. Ishmael was found by graduate students to be a great novel for supplementary reading in my Conservation and Natural Resource course last semester. Thanks, Charlie Rhyne
Charles Rhyne
Brandon, MS USA - Monday, December 30, 1996 at 15:19:56 (PST)
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What frightens me at this point is not "how can I apply the concepts brought forth by Quinn" in the two best books I've ever read (~Ishmael~ and ~The Story of B~) but "What if I had never read them?" But I did! Louis H. (another Quinn reader and email fri end of mine) and I sometimes feel that we have an inability to present our thoughts and ideas clearly to others. This may be true for others and therefore they may refrain from expression and apathy occurs. But we all have something to say, no matter how big or small. Quinn would like to see us try to be BIGGER than our conditions allow us to be and take responsibility. We can't sit around waiting for specifics on what to do...Just DO what you CAN. Just using the net as a medium to express our thoughts an d networking with others interested in applying Quinn's concepts is a start! Any submissions or contributions here shows that we are interested in keeping the communication lines open and doing our part. Continue to question everything! Questioning create s thought...as Ish shows us! Sometimes it takes a work of "fiction" for people to stumble upon the readings and then we can truly make it non-fiction! "We read so we know that we are not alone. Do you believe this to be true?" (a la Anthony Hopkins in Sha dowlands) From the readers reactions submitted here and those that continue on the Ish LISTSERV we find we are definitely not alone! Don't stop reading and reacting folks! My friend Louis and I are contributing a story to this guestbook that we both heard a long time ago and that we feel truly applies here.(Separate contribution) Remember the popular quote "This is the first day of the rest of OUR lives." Louis' email is lhazard@nr.infi.net Lori (B) and Louis (B)
Lori Rossen
Apalachin, NY USA - Monday, December 30, 1996 at 13:50:54 (PST)
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--The following story is a wonderful illustration of what Quinn talks about when he says do what you CAN. When we begin feeling overwhelmed by Quinn's concepts/propositions/insights think of this... Say an island existed somewhere in the midst of the ocea n. What brings tourists there is that they have terrible storms that blow through the night and wash thousands of starfish up on the beach. A young boy is there with his family and can hardly contain himself during the night knowing that in the morning he will be able to get all the starfish he wants as souvenirs. The resort sets out large boiling kettles of water for the guests to put the stars in-to preserve them for the trip home. Well, the morning comes and the young boy rushes down to the beach. At t he edge of the beach he sees an old woman, bent over moving very slowly. He then notices that she is picking up the starfish, one by one, very slowly with trembling hands and throwing them back into the sea. Well he thinks this is the most ridiculous thin g he has ever seen. He asks her what she is doing. Is she crazy? Doesn't she know these are souvenirs? She tells him that she is saving their lives. He looks at the woman. Then he looks at the miles and miles of beach, with thousands upon thousands of sta rfish and asks "What's the point? They're all going to die anyway. Why bother? What difference can you make?" She looks at the boy,slowly bends down, picks up a starfish and flings it back into the sea and says "I made a difference for that one!" The stor y goes on, the sun comes up, the guests rush to the beach and are stopped in their tracks when they see the woman AND the boy throwing starfish back into the ocean.
Lori Rossen
Apalachin, NY USA - Monday, December 30, 1996 at 13:18:38 (PST)
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DQ, you are constantly one step ahead of me. After reading "B" over X-mas, I began asking a number of questions about aspects of mother culture that you hadn't addressed in either Ishmael or B. Then I logged on and read your essay about wealth -- Brillian t! -- and your parable of URU, which sent me for a loop, as I'd written a very sime analogy of a sleeping society. I take great comfort in continuing to find that you've stolen my ideas!! Slow down and let me get some of the credit, O.K.?
Dan
Owosso, MI USA - Monday, December 30, 1996 at 01:24:25 (PST)
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I would love to know if Mr. Quinn has ever been camping. If so, did he take a hot shower when he got back? If so, how would he like to go a whole lifetime without a hot shower. The reason the leaver people did not develop a lifestyle similar to ours is th at they did not think of it. Put an easy chair and hot and cold running water in the middle of any leaver compound. See if the people like it. If they don't, Quinn is right. If they do, the whole book goes down the drain because the major premise is fault y. Better yet, give a leaver mom the choice of a shot of antibiotic for her dying child or staying in her pure leaver state. Sorry kids, this whole book is built on a bunch of assumptions that don't fly. If you would like to read the opposite view, read P aul Zane Pilzer's Unlimited Wealth. A fun read, but not an answer to anything we needed to know.
Jack Williams
Prescott, Az USA - Saturday, December 28, 1996 at 16:03:22 (PST)
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I found Bs' story fascinating. Through accepting the obvious longevity of our communal experience, I can see the fallacious foundation upon which our dying mythology is built. However, isn't animism too timid to start a new flow. We can see a developing u nity in mathematics, cosmology, quantum mechanics, ecology, and mythology. All as one (past/future, here/there, matter/energy, dying/living, many/one) may provide a stronger assumption for an anti-christ. Is there a difference between seeing god as everyt hing/one in a single totality and seeing a god for everything?
Kevin Coughlin
Lancaster, OH USA - Saturday, December 28, 1996 at 13:24:24 (PST)
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Inspiration!
Gabriel Greene
Healdsburg, CA USA - Saturday, December 28, 1996 at 07:06:29 (PST)
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Both Ishmael and The Story of B have put forth ideas that were intuitive to me but not nearly as clear as Daniel Quinn has articulated. Especially the facts that leaver cultures are egalitarian and their economy is based on giving and receiving support. A s I hone my ideas about life the only thing that seems consistent to me is that it is the relationships I have with others that is satisifying and important. It is certainly not money or stuff. Thanks to DQ and this webpage, I now know I am not alone in t hese feelings, that others feel as I do. Namely, that something is fundamentally wrong with the way we are living. While that is a nice to know I'm not alone, it is only a beginning. And since we are at the beginning, I feel the best we at the cutting edg e can do is start the process of thinking and behaving differently. This process of change is going to take hundreds or thousands of years. While it is almost nothing in geologic time, none of us will witness a great leaver culture in our time. But what d ifference does that make? Someone has to begin to stop the destruction totalitarian agriculture has wrought on the planet. I choose to B one of those.
Mark Wolfe (and Gina Karrh)
Atlanta, GA USA - Saturday, December 28, 1996 at 03:27:53 (PST)
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I have just finished B and look forward to discussing it with a group of six friends. We get together monthly to discuss Ishmael (and now B) and to attempt to discover how we can begin to make positive changes in the way we live. I would be happy to excha nge e-mail with others interested in the explorations of our group.
Barry Grossheim
Fort Thomas, KY USA - Friday, December 27, 1996 at 20:38:03 (PST)
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The beliefs of a lifetime do not change with the reading of one book. I am still exploring. Looking forward to input from other readers.
Martha L. Sheehan
Southampton, NY USA - Friday, December 27, 1996 at 14:57:13 (PST)
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Where do we go from here?
Kathy Dannhausen
Scottsdale, AZ USA - Friday, December 27, 1996 at 07:36:24 (PST)
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Not really the Story of B, but perhaps I have gone further. Just finished reading _Providence_, only to find that I'm on a different spritual plane than DQ, but only because I'm not wedded to perfection. He describes Trapist Catholicism as "God has to lov e you because you love him", where I replace that statement with "God has to love you because you are his creation", which of course becomes "God loves all of his creation equally", which ends up making the God of Jacob and Issac merely into a Krishna-lik e figure, the Great Spirit of the Animists. What's the difference? The Great Spirit Creates, the lesser gods animate, and us poor humans are so far down on the ladder that we're not much different than lillies, tigers, or amobea. And the "Mother Culture" myth that we should be treated any differently than that has never made any sense to me. The real great remembering will come from here, cyberspace, the next great "revolution" (the first two being agriculture and industry), which I hope and pray, will be more intelligent, more directed than the first two. Now I'm off to try the ishmael web page. Ted
Theodore M. Seeber
Silverton-Salem, OR USA - Thursday, December 26, 1996 at 20:15:05 (PST)
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I just finished B...My husband will start it & we will discuss as he reads it...so much to think about, so much I agree with....but can i reconcile it with my stong faith in Jesus & Jehovah? I do not think the two are mutually exclusive as they seem to be on the surface. I will spend lots of time considering the two. Thank-you for a great book....Marge Lowery
Marge Lowery
Bonita Springs, FL USA - Wednesday, December 25, 1996 at 17:04:25 (PST)
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The Story of B is a brilliant tool, a gift from a wise man. After reading the comments of other readers, I discovered that I was not alone in declaring halfway through the journey that I was B. As a Environmentatal Communications Major, I am relieved that there are others out there preparing the way for a renewing vision. Here's to the Great Remembering! Now it is our job to find ways of promoting THE STORY OF B. Let this be a warning to the Takers, the beginning is near.
Robert T. Nanninga
Leucadia, Ca. USA - Wednesday, December 25, 1996 at 15:22:12 (PST)
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I just started reading the Story of B, and I can't put it down. It's compatible with how I've been thinking for some time. Actually, I'm going to turn off my computer now and get back into the book. I'm on page 89. Robert B. Simmonds, Ph.D.
San Diego, CA USA - Wednesday, December 25, 1996 at 01:34:05 (PST)
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The Story of B is a very fascinating book. I am very interested in persuing the issues further. The book has given me the impulse to go find Fr.Osborne and talk to him, but that is not reality. It amazes me that the issues that are introduced in Ishmael, and continued in The Story of B are only now being widely exposed. It is very important that these issues do not fade into the future, but that they become more and more prevelant in our culture. The design and the vision is what needs to be changed and u ntil we understand this as a whole mass then it is very difficult to change the behavior.I won't ever loss hope.
Carla Felicia
Occidental, CA USA - Tuesday, December 24, 1996 at 16:09:25 (PST)
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It opened my eyes...and still does, every time I re-read it.
Stewart Amgwert
Palmer, AK USA - Saturday, December 14, 1996 at 18:02:53 (PST)

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I'm no Historian I'm no Philosopher nor Sociologist nor Anthropologist I'm not much of anything beyond my ability to bull shit my way through any basic conversation involving the above institutions, ask me for a date and I'll give you a date with few hundred year error margine if your lucky. Because of my lack of substantiality in anything and everything, anything and everything I here can only be judged as good bull-shit or bad bull-shit. Learning the difference between the two can sometimes be a n arduous task, to me it eventually comes down to my gut instinct which rarely lets me down if ever. The ideas and theories put forth in the Story of B ring a profound truth to them, one in which my gut insticnt demands my attention as well as my bles sings. I hope such stories continue to emerge out of or culture to shine some light of hope for out future.
Austin Cable
which one, ? USA - Saturday, December 14, 1996 at 13:39:04 (PST)

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I read it in three days and was unable to put it down. I read ISHMAEL four years ago, and thought THAT was revolutionary! It still is, oc course, and I wouldn't recommend THE STORY OF B without also recommending ISHMAEL (which I have to everybody), b ut B is by far a more challenging, in depth vision. There are certain points that I disagree with, but cannot say enough how important these two books are or how minds like Daniel Quinn's are. I wish it were possible to have direct dialogue with him.< BR> jlc4vft@aol.com
Santa Ana, CA USA - Saturday, December 14, 1996 at 08:01:30 (PST)

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I find Mr. Quinn's thinking stunning! I must re-read Ishmail and The Story of B until I fully grasp them and can talk about them with conviction. When asked to describe either book (because I'm recommending them left and right!), I struggle with what t o say--they touch so many fronts. The only solution I've found is to buy everyone I know copies with the assurance that they won't regret the time invested! This weekend I'm going to package a set for my highschool English teacher and encourage her to incorporate them as soon as possible into her curriculum. I want this contagion to keep spreading! Thank you, Daniel Quinn.
Cari Keller
Washington, DC USA - Friday, December 06, 1996 at 16:55:37 (PST)

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I have just started reading B. I have read Ishmael to my high school environmental science classes for the past three years. I am thrilled that B goes into more detail and clarifies many of the issues raised in Ishmael. I probably will not be able to read it in class but I will recommend it to others.
James S. Gilham
Miami, FL USA - Friday, December 06, 1996 at 16:23:51 (PST)

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As expected, I found the book very thought provoking. It served to refresh my recollection of the basic concepts introduced in Ishmael. I believe the book made an even stronger statement, through its use of population growth statistics, as to path of destruction we are on unless there is, indeed, a Great Remembering. As I did after reading Ishmael, the Story of B makes me want "wake up!". Having recognized the problem mankind is confronted with, I remain frustrated as to how to bring about the ne cessary change.
Jerry Dworkin
Irvine, CA USA - Friday, December 06, 1996 at 14:52:59 (PST)

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Wonderful!!!!!! Are you going to option B. for a movie? It has a wonderfully adaptable story line for cinema. I expect your book tour through California elicited some offers. How about making a film of Ishmael? How about audio books? Even though I am an intellectual, I found that the audio tapes of Joseph Cambell with Bill Moyers on MYTH were more comprehensible than the book or the video tapes. Some people, some subjects are more powerful on tape. I expect that Ishmael is this way.
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Thank you for making the 2nd B. a female. It made the drama powerful.
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For your next book I recommend a Confession. Take any of the priests who participated in the conspiracy killing the 1st B. and the attempted killing of the 2nd B. and make him repent. Take your repentant priest to the mystic Christianity of St. Franci s of Assisi. Are you familiar with the writings of theologian Fr. Matthew Fox? Original Blessing, Cosmic Christ, Compassion are titles of his Creation Spirituality which is a panantheist faith quite compatible with B's animism. Fr. Matthew Fox was con demned and silenced by the Vatican a few years ago. He has become an Episcopal priest. Have your repentant priest confess for the Taker Culture. "Bless us, Father, for we have sinned..." would be the confession of collective shame and quilt. Through y our repentant priest you could re-image orthodox religions like you did in the reinterpetation of Genesis. Good luck.
Terry O'Rourke
713/755-8282 orourke@counsel.com
Terry O'Rourke
Houston, TX USA - Friday, December 06, 1996 at 12:34:27 (PST)

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I have yet to read "B," since I know there will be a copy neath the Christmas tree. I have read "Ishmael" and "Providence." I teach anthropology at the University of Alaska, including Alaska Native Cultures and Arctic Archaeology. While it is true that some Arctic humans traditionally ate meat almost exclusively, they did consume plant materials from the stomach and intestinal contents of their favorite animals. It is also true that many groups suffered from chronic periodic malnutrition. However, since they survived to the contact period, they obviously developed cultural and physiological mechanisms to overcome nutrional shortfalls. I am much taken with Quinn's books, since they express a worldview and spiritual philosophy that I have indepe ndently developed through my studies of Arctic indiginous cultures. I look forward to reading "B" all night Christmas Eve!
Michael A. Lewis
Fairbanks, AK USA - Monday, December 02, 1996 at 18:46:46 (PST)

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Just finished your book that I picked up during your visit to Oregon State University last Nov.21. Thank you again, I was given new insights to everyday knowledge and experiences or some of my own observations were reinforced. However, I was disappoin ted that the book did not touch on what I believe is a vital issue and problem to our existence. This problem is seen in the psychological and emotional walls everyone builds around themselves for protection. We also wear masks representing who we wan t to be or who we want others to see. I believe this is the source of the feeling of "angst" or the lack of connection to others, even with our partners or our own family and especially with the natural world. This lack of connection is why many of us seek either physical, emotional or spiritual materialism to fill that perceived gap (only to strengthen and build the wall higher). In a sense these walls and masks keep us from really living life. We are too scare to let down our walls that we would rather live in our own little prisons. Unfortunately, we can't leave our well made, comfortable prisons if we don't realize we ourselves are in them. "The greatest fear we have today is not that we are living a boring or meaningless life,but that we a re not living at all!" I've tried to see past the obscuring lenses of the Great Forgetting; however, I still see that masks and walls have been with us in many leaver cultures. When and why did these shaman masks become emotional masks and prisons?
Valiant Villanueva
Corvallis, OR USA - Monday, December 02, 1996 at 15:37:08 (PST)

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Loved it. However, I read it and then purchased the audio for my husband knowing it would be "read" faster that way. Was saddened to see that you left out the "Public Teachings' as I think it is a vital part of the story. While the book impacted him, I don't think it did nearly as much as me because these 83 pages are necessary for the impact. So, can this be remedied? A Am curious to know too, what do people who are "fundamentally" tied to their religions feel about this book?
Ann G. Kramer
Tampa, FL USA - Monday, December 02, 1996 at 10:06:50 (PST)

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I read Ishmael on a road trip to Maine last summer, and immediately gave it to my husband to read. We then spent a good part of our 2-week vacation discussing it, and finding a copy of Chalice and the Blade to read. I just finished reading both "B" a nd "The Boundless Circle" by Michael W. Fox. Fox 's book examines world religions and their approach to our attitudes towards animals and the rest of nature. He promotes the doctrine of panenthesism, which is very similar to "B"'s animism. The idea th at we are the "chosen" species and that we are here to have dominion over the rest of the world has always seemd horribly wrong to me. I found some help in the modern philosophies of animal rights teachings - but it is not until very recently that the se philosophies have embraced the entire world and promoted, as does "B", the idea of the true communitiy of life. Now - to help to spread the word. I teach coursework in companion animal science at the University of Illinois - within the College of A griculture. Naturally, the ag. program at U. of I. is completely based upon totalitarian agricutrture. I have recommended Ishmael, Chalice and the Blade (and now, "B") to students in my course on Human-Animal Interactions. I would welcome messages fro m other instructors and professors who are teaching in this area. Thank you, Daniel Quinn, for your vision. I am now starting Providence......

Linda P. Case
Champaign-Urbana, IL USA - Sunday, December 01, 1996 at 18:36:05 (PST)

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I've just lost my faith. Or whatever was left of it, anyway. I would just like to thank B for showing me how I can disassemble the religious (particularly christian) indoctrination I have been exposed to for most of my life without the act being just a symbol of protest. As an Environmental Leadership student at the Naropa Institute I first read Ishamael for a class. Now I am about to recommend The Story of B to be added, because this is EXACTLY what we are trying to do in this program. Also, I'd like to translate it into my native language (Czech). Anyone knows how to go about it? Daniel, I have enjoyed your talk in Boulder Bookstore. I don't want to become anything like your follower (I don't think you'd care for it); but you do have my dee pest respect and gratitude.
Pavel Gmuzdek
Boulder, CO USA - Sunday, December 01, 1996 at 17:32:44 (PST)

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I enjoyed Ishmael last year, and bought "The Story of B" when I saw it in the local bookstore. I just finished it a few hours ago and I think that the message is an excellent one. I have been reaching simialar conclusions slowly over the past few year s, and I'm glad that someone else is saying and thinking the same things. My mother is a midwife in SC and has dedicated her life to practicing an art that is completely in tune with the order of the universe. She has taught me and guided me much over the course of my life. It seems that now her profession is being forcibly eliminated by the Western medical establishment, who prefer to treat birth and the introduction of new life into the world as a disease. Take it as just one more indicator that we've got things screwed up in a big way. I would comment that Shirin's rejection of astrology doesn't seem to fit with the reality that the web of life and every individual is inextricably connected to the rest of the universe. This, I believe, is o ne of the bases for astrology. I'm not saying that I accept astrology without reserve, but it does seem a little contradictory to reject it so readily.
G. Noah Brinton
Pittsburgh, PA USA - Sunday, December 01, 1996 at 15:41:18 (PST)

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Call me a B-leaver. You who are reading this are needed locally, nationally and world wide to put into action the work of B. Via E-mail we can easily organize small groups who will meet to keep in motion the thoughts and ideas of B. Contact: vectruss@pacifier.com Call: 360-574-1616 Russ
Russ Buchheit
Vancouver, Wwa USA - Sunday, December 01, 1996 at 14:10:35(PST)

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I find it very intersting to see that in the section calle 'Qestions and Answers about B", you seem to have removed the two questions that I take the most issue with. That of vegetarianism and feeding the starving populations of Africa. I would assume that your responses were so unpopular with many of your admirers that you felt it might be safer to avoid those issues altogether. I too, was an admirer till I read your views on those subjects. What I found most preposterous was your opinion that we shouln't regard eating as "harmful" ....that a carrot is the same as a trout.....that we should't get involved in ethnocentricism [A nice big philosohical term that helps hide your position even further]..You also state that no leaver culture was veg etarian and so neither should we ? Surely you are in denial about the values of vegetarianism for ethical, health, and environmental reasons.. You also report on page 182 of B that the Ihalmiut Ekimos ate only meat and were perfectly healthy.... I don "t know where you got your medical information from but the typical Eskimao tribes suffer afrom a wide variety of ailments including osteoporosis, malnourishment, and liver and kidney disease. Most of these problems stem from a diet too rich in protei n and lacking vitamins, minerals and fiber. I doubt that the Ihalmiut were any exception. At this point I'm glad your answers were removed so that you cannot spread erroneous information to your readers.
Andy Glick
kingston, NY USA - Sunday, December 01, 1996 at 09:38:13 (PST)


Webmaster's Note: The questions in question are STILL in the at FAQ section of Ishmael's Website (http://www.ishmael.org/cgi-bin/faq.cgi). Surely you noticed, but then just forgot, that I put the following note at the "B" FAQ section, "Until we build a library specific to The Story of B, many of these questions and answers are from Daniel Quinn Answers Ishmael questions but are still applicable to The Story of B". If I failed to include questions and answers that relate to "B", it was my fault alone. DQ has NEVER pulled an answer of his that seemed "unpopular" to his readers. Nor is he terribly interested in gathering "admirers" and so never shies away from issues just because it would be "safer."