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The Question (ID Number 701)...

    This is both a question and a comment. On your website I see people constantly asking you what should we do? I myself wondered this after reading Ishmael. But I have now, after some reflection, realized that this is in many ways a Taker mindset. Am I wrong to think that we can do enough just by becoming Leaver ourselves? I guess what I am trying to say is that, can't we, just by adopting the lifestyle of a Leaver, change all we need to? Is our culture not like a prison, in that if one person were to stroll out, the other prisoners would follow suit? I am having trouble explaining my thoughts exactly, so I will just ask you, do we really need to do anything more than leave the Taker prison?

    ...and the response:

    "Leaving the Taker prison" is not as easy as you seem to think. What keeps us inside is the need to make a living, and how is a living to be made outside of the Taker producer-consumer economy? This problem (and its solution) is explored in Beyond Civilization.


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