My question is one of the place of the role of government in general for human beings, Leaver and Taker both. If the natural existence for humans is the tribe, or a grouping of men so that they may make a living better, then does natural growth of a group create a democracy, or is it that tribes stay the same size or they break up? Does the tribal form of living lend itself to ever larger groups, equipped with representatives and a constitution? Or does representation ruin the essence of the Tribe, thus ending its existence as a Tribal unit? • Ishmael.org, the work & philosophy of Daniel Quinn