While discussing the ideas in your books, some people have said that, yes, if our culture continues without change, there will be a cataclysmic event. But, they argue, there is no way to kill our entire species, as we're the most adaptive and intelligent one on the planet. I'm finding it hard to point to conclusive evidence otherwise, and I find the notion entirely possible. Hmm, there's a question in here somewhere. . . . I suppose that if the impending Taker-wrought ecological disaster doesn't wipe out our species, it'd be almost a given that the survivors would be logically forced to dump the Taker lifestyle, as they've not only seen but experienced what it invariably leads to, right? • Ishmael.org, the work & philosophy of Daniel Quinn