On the Ish site the other day, a quote was displayed was about tribal people not having any question as to the status of their adulthood, just as George Bush has no question of his status as President. I think it’s about time I went out to seek my manhood vision and definitively draw a line separating my childhood from adulthood.

I mean this seriously. For countless generations, the natives of this area went off into the world alone and fasting until they were granted a vision that would help to define their life and guide them along their path. This can’t just be mumbo jumbo if so many people were rooted in it and learned from it.

A vision must have been accorded most everyone who sought one, or else they wouldn’t have kept seeking them, generation after generation. I’m curious as to whether such a vision can still be sought, and whether or not it will be granted. I wonder what your thoughts are on this.

Is this a foolish thing to pursue? In your opinion? Is there any merit in a 21st century digital white man wandering off alone into the vast open plains, eating nothing until he collapses into a hunger-induced hallucination that may or may not contain for him a guiding force to be present for the rest of his life?

According to Ishmael, symbolically speaking, eating from the tree of the knowledge of good and evil led man to believe that he could make choices for himself that took him out of the hands of the gods, which ultimately has led him (and the rest of the world) to the edge of his undoing.

The thought occurred to me that perhaps Jesus understood this, and that baptism was his attempt to cleanse mankind from this knowledge. Perhaps this is how he intended to be the savior of man; by washing away the (original) sin of Adam and Eve and placing man back into the hands of the gods.

Tragically, this is not the interpretation of Jesus’s intentions as taught by modern Christianity.

My growing and learning beckons questions which crave answers. One particular area in my studies is man’s “spirituality.”

When asking myself about the essence of “religion,” I also want to feel back to what “religion” was before the Great Forgetting (GF).

I feel the animist-glow sometimes and then follow the linear evolution until the ability to think in abstract ways seems also to form (or allow room) for “the gods/God,” etc. I trust I’m making sense to you—the concept I’m trying to convey. So all this brings me to question WHAT IS spirituality?

Taker or not, how does one enact his story on a spiritual level accordingly? Sure, the Buddhists, Christians, etc., (as well as the Lakota Sioux, for that matter) have some beautiful expressions of spirit (whatever that is). As a Taker, I sensed the need for “salvific” religion. As an awakened Taker, I feel the need for something deeper. If the Lakota Indians’ “religion” wasn’t salvific/salvationistic (which it wasn’t), it was their spirituality nonetheless.

Doesn’t “religion” (spirituality) enter the scene wherever abstract thinkers are (mankind)?

Of course I realize that their spirituality was more of a perception of the world, whereas our religions often include reactive laws, rituals, etc. In the evolution of things, including mankind with his amazing brain/mind, is there room for us to evolve in “spirit?”

What is your opinion of the direction we are to move (spiritually), if “spiritual candy” is simply “candy” which will not save the world? Are you saying we should simply not eat candy? Wait. I know you’re not saying that! I’ve read enough (and listened) to know better!

If spiritual candy will not save the world (which it appears it cannot), then what’s the use of it?

More personally, if I may, how do you express your “spirituality?” Are we just a biomassive blob bouncing around the earth, or is there a deeper realm of reality? Does the term “universal consciousness” or “soul of the universe” make you laugh? What do you distance yourself from, and to what do you draw near?

After reading all your books to date and listening to The Book of the Damned on audio I keep wondering what exactly you mean by “the gods.”

I took it to mean that Leavers were, and still are, living at the whim of nature and simply taking what comes free and not worrying about what is to come next. I assumed that you did not actually mean any god or gods in specific.

Am I interpreting “The gods” correctly?

What is my question to you? Simply whether you find any value in any “form” or “kind” of techniques, practices, or exercises to edify your “spirit” (if I may say that), to connect to your creativity, wisdom, etc., that’s within you. Whether or not Leaver peoples do this, I do not know.

But as a writer, thinker, and resident of civilization (Houston even), do you find time, room, and place for this? If too personal a question, do you shrug your shoulders at such things, finding it yet an irrelevant question?